Curse

Tetrazon · Jan 09, 2009, 02:40 AM // 02:40

I think the only titles that should have ever been added were the PvP, to show experience. The exploring, protector, guardian, skill capturing, abd survivor. LDoA because it's cool. I think anet took something they knew that a bunch of people would shit bricks over and milked it hard core. I forgot to add... the wisdom and treasure hunter are good to. Did anybody honestly buy the game so they could click a stack of sweets to get some text? No, they did not.

One could argue that if you don't like titles then ignore them and that is very true. But seriously I kind of like titles, but this game in the beginning has always been skill > time, I expect skill > money as well. If you agree with that statement right there then you should agree about my titles suggestion. It should take skill to get titles, not money. All this does is influence greed. Anybody who notices that anet made 1k armor the same stats as 100k or 1mil will believe that this game is truly skill > time.

I love the way they were thinking in the beginning, but they began to fall into the typical MMO category where you grind away at meaningless tasks to make you feel better.

Another note; 1 title showing you maxed more than 1 title is enoguh recognition. I believe there is no purpose beyond Kind of A Big Deal, unless the next title is A Big Deal and end it there.

Puebert · Jan 09, 2009, 03:38 AM // 03:38

/not signed

Dumb suggestion.
Titles are here for good.
And they don't do a damn thing other than let you wtfpwn Margonites and show off your epeen.

The Lost Explorer · Jan 09, 2009, 03:50 AM // 03:50

/notsign

soooo you want everything ppl put some effort in to get erased? thats not a smart idea, yeah titles aren't the best thing to happen to GW but what will ppl do if there wasn't any titles? not everyone likes PvP and its nearly impossible for someone new to get involed in it, titles should be left alone. so what if someone has a PvE or money sink title, are you to jealous of it that you want them erased? ANet will never get rid of titles its too late, waaaayyyyy to late

guildwars hero22 · Jan 09, 2009, 03:50 AM // 03:50

titles are dumb. anyone can grind through them nothing hard. just shows how much of a life you have or dont have.

dasmitchies · Jan 09, 2009, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Get a real cause.

Razorblade Monkey · Jan 09, 2009, 04:27 AM // 04:27

/notsigned

One of the dumbest ideas I have seen in aaaaages... Thats basically saying "I personally don't like those cash titles, so EVERY OTHER PLAYER SHOULD MISS OUT!" Yeah, real, umm... clever... -.-

End of the day: You don't like them? Don't attempt them, simple. If anything, it sounds like jealousy, which you can deny if you wish, but there isn't much else that would spawn this kind of request. Don't expect the many, many players who happen to like title hunting (regardless of method of aquisition) to agree with this silly suggestion.

As mentioned above, PvP is not for everyone, and especially for newcomers, they would get ANNIHILATED in PvP against players that have been doing it for years, so PvE gameplay/titles is more suited to the less hardcore just want some fun instead of getting whipped in PvP so bad it could make newcomers uninstall. Anet have stated many times their goal is to cater for players of ALL skill levels, not just YOUR skill level. So if players suck at PvP, let them click their sweets etc if they wish and leave them alone! Your skill > time thing is your own personal preference, and for some people they would like that also, but Survivor isn't as easy for some as it is for others, same as finishing a campaign, so they may want to work on a cash title instead, but you'd rather deny them of that for what? Want them to come and ask for the titles YOU like to be removed? No? Then stick to your game and leave others that aren't bothering you alone. The cash titles they earn can do absolutely nothing to you other than, as I said before, make you jealous. So deny if you will, but it just seems like someone is upset his epeen isn't as big as players with GWAMM etc...

So flame me if you want, but just think about your suggestion... Like REALLY think... YOU want EVERY player to miss out because YOU don't like something... That's fair... -.-

Hailey Anne · Jan 09, 2009, 04:41 AM // 04:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorblade Monkey

One of the dumbest ideas I have seen in aaaaages...

You abviously dont read the forums then.

OT I would sign but its the only I have left to do in game other wise I would just stop playing.

Konig Des Todes · Jan 09, 2009, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetrazon

Did anybody honestly buy the game so they could click a stack of sweets to get some text? No, they did not.

Nope, people did not buy the game for that. They bought the game to play it. Titles - all of them - are just a side bonus.

If any titles get removed, it should be grind titles. This includes:

Champion
Gamer
Gladiator
Hero
Lucky
Unlucky
Zaishen
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom
Drunkard
Legendary Defender of Ascalon
Allegiance (Kurzick/Luxon)
Commander
Lightbringer
Sunspear
Asura
Deldrimor
Ebon Vanguard
Norn

Note: I do not count Sweet Tooth and Party Animal as grind because they are more of money sinks. Drunkard however, requires 10k minutes, instead of just instantly clicking anything. I count PvP titles are grind because, lets face it, any one form of PvP is doing the same thing over and over, same areas, same goals (different arenas have different goals somewhat), and the title have high numbers (takes three years to max Hero afterall).

Tetrazon · Jan 09, 2009, 04:49 AM // 04:49

I did same "Remove Titles" very vaguely, but I don't think half the people listened to me. Not all of them are bad. The money sink titles are. Why would I be jealous that someone wasted 10,000 minutes clicking something? This is a suggestion forum and that means obviously a lot of things were here to stay. It doesn't mean they can't be modified.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lost Explorer

/notsign

soooo you want everything ppl put some effort in to get erased? thats not a smart idea, yeah titles aren't the best thing to happen to GW but what will ppl do if there wasn't any titles? not everyone likes PvP and its nearly impossible for someone new to get involed in it, titles should be left alone. so what if someone has a PvE or money sink title, are you to jealous of it that you want them erased? ANet will never get rid of titles its too late, waaaayyyyy to late

Worst argument I ever heard. How long have you been playing Guild Wars? There's been lots of things people put effort into and lost. A prime example would be the wisdom and treasure hunter situation. I'm sure there's plenty of people who got grandmaster on one character and then did it on another character.

crazybanshee · Jan 09, 2009, 04:55 AM // 04:55

What, you don't like em? Don't get em. Plenty of people already have em. Stop trolling the boards with stupid threads. Didn't you just have a thread about losing 4 accounts or something?

Neo Atomisk · Jan 09, 2009, 04:55 AM // 04:55

/notsigned

Tbh, nearly every title is just a luxury thing. The 8 alliegence/rep titles have the only impact on play, and with no ursan, they don't really do too much. Titles are really the center of gw. Simply put, removing titles would ruin gw.

Shayne Hawke · Jan 09, 2009, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

If any titles get removed, it should be grind titles. This includes:

Champion
Gamer
...

out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out.

@ OP: Your idea ultimately fails, because one of the biggest points in the HoM is a transfer of GW titles to GW2 rewards. Nevertheless, I do agree with you.

Money titles (Sweet Tooth, Drunkard, Party Animal) can all be shot. Free titles (Legendary Skill Hunter, Legendary Guardian, etc.) should all drop from counting from the maxed titles track. LDoA and LS get fixed, or dropped. Zaishen gets reverted to what it should have been - a title showing max balth faction spent - or dropped.

PvP titles are only super bad because LOLBALANCE. Sunspear, LB, and the Factions/EotN titles are a joke because of PvE skills, but that's still functionality. If those skills get removed, which would never be the case, then you could drop all of those. Protector, Cartographer, Skill Hunter, etc. make sense. Treasure Hunter, Wisdom, and Lucky have functionality, and it'd be kind of ridiculous to have Lucky without Unlucky.

Ultimately though, titles seem to have been the one major push that warped the game out of a Skill>Time mindset, and nothing yet has come by, as far as I know, to bring GW back in that direction.

tl;dr - Titles are stupid, but they're not going to go, no matter how much and how many people complain.

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

Simply put, removing titles would ruin gw.

Removing titles would put us in a time warp that would bring us back to 05ish.

Rakim B · Jan 09, 2009, 05:23 AM // 05:23

hello

skill>time

titles =/= skill

taa daa!

Neo Atomisk · Jan 09, 2009, 05:25 AM // 05:25

And there wasn't too much to do back then, iirc
I'd estimate 90% of the gw community plays for titles.

Kook~NBK~ · Jan 09, 2009, 05:28 AM // 05:28

/not signed.

They threw in titles such as party, drunk, and sweet tooth as filler for gaining the GWAMM title. Without them, maxing out the KoaBD title track would be extremely time consuming, putting it out of reach for even moderately avid GW players.

And the skill > time arguement may have had validity back in the day. But as GW has aged, more and more people have gotten as skilled as they're ever going to get, have played through each campaign with several different characters, and have done the elite areas to death. So all that's left for the long-time player is grinding out titles & helping out the occasional newbie.

Konig Des Todes · Jan 09, 2009, 05:30 AM // 05:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out.

I never said to remove those titles, just that if titles were to be removed (which they won't) then grind titles would be removed. And Gamer=grind (but probably the funnest grind title).

Neo Atomisk · Jan 09, 2009, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

/not signed.

They threw in titles such as party, drunk, and sweet tooth as filler for gaining the GWAMM title. Without them, maxing out the KoaBD title track would be extremely time consuming, putting it out of reach for even moderately avid GW players.

And the skill > time arguement may have had validity back in the day. But as GW has aged, more and more people have gotten as skilled as they're ever going to get, have played through each campaign with several different characters, and have done the elite areas to death. So all that's left for the long-time player is grinding out titles & helping out the occasional newbie.

Basically extended my thoughts.

realtalk916 · Jan 09, 2009, 06:31 AM // 06:31

i dont think a single person has agreed with u lol

its an mmo, it has to have some sort of achievements

subarucar · Jan 09, 2009, 07:29 AM // 07:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

If any titles get removed, it should be grind titles. This includes:
Champion
Gamer
Gladiator
Hero
Zaishen
Allegiance (Kurzick/Luxon)
Commander
........

So junk all the titles availible through PvP play?

warrior running · Jan 09, 2009, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Titles are what make me want to keep playing without them this game would be nada